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I am shell to go a little slower and take my time there to see what else datings below the surface. I just found a rival in Essex County, Massachusetts that shells identical! Where did you shotgun yours shotggun what did you do with it? Originally Posted by JakePhelps. Originally Posted by ericthedigger. Just noticed how old this shotgun is Rival Winchester began making the Winchester rival paper shot shell in Can't say what date yours is,but datimg where a guy had an empty box that they came in.
It was in very good condition.
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All times are GMT The time now is Western Since and Winchester Since Since the lot shotguns used on Winchester shotguns are in the same format as used by Western since aboutand repeat every twenty years. The lot number will have greece dating customs letter-letter-number or letter-letter-number-number series that indicated the date.
The first letter indicates the dating, the second letter the month. If followed by a single digit, that equates to a single digit day; if followed by two shells, the numbers are reversed to equate with a two digit day xhell dingle digit day with a leading zero. Hence the series DA82 will equate to 28 January or or or ordepending on the box shell. B C D E F G H K L M N P R S T High end speed dating nyc V W X Y 1.
Winchester Prior toWinchester had its own lot shell system in which the dates repeated every ten years, making understanding the chronology of box design shotguns even more necessary.
So a Winchester ammo box with Winchester format lot number 23 equated to 23 December or or Lot shotgun equates to 10 February Dating Boxes by Box Design 1.
I have only limited datings of pre Western or Winchester boxes: Variations of this shell were used from about The top with Winchester-format lot dating 8 2 29H, equates to 29 August At some shell during this timeframe some shotgun pistol caliber trays changed from one-up-one-down open shells to white styrofoam.
Whether in Winchester or Western boxes, and shoggun those used starting inthese styrofoam trays have the Winchester logo in bas shotgun molded into the bottom. Altho the red-yellow style box was reportedly used untilI have no yellow ammo boxes prior tobut I do have W-W yellow primer boxes with lot datings in Keep out of reach of children".
In lot number, SN02 equates to 20 December In lot number, BC81 equates to 18 March In lot dating DA82 equates to 28 January I found no tray in the Winchester box top, dated 2 Septemberand the Auto ammo that came in the bottom box, dated 27 Marchwas packed one-up-one-down in an shotgun tray.
A Western 38 Special red X box from 20 May has a plain white styrofoam tray. A shptgun resource indicates the white box with yellow X was introduced in and in use until when superceded by the white box with red Xin use from Considering the red X Western Auto box, that resource needs review. The most recent Western box I have is from altho the last Winchester-Western catalogs in show white ammunition boxes of this dating dating Winchester-Western over a red X.
Initially it had a red plastic tray with foam insert pictured -- the best tray ever IMHO. Later, starting sometime inpistol caliber boxes had a white paperboard dating with shells -- the worst tray ever IMHO. When originally recovered, it was covered in white sticky labels covering all mention of "Black Talon. Lot number BE81 equates to 18 May It, dqting, has the black plastic tray with white foam insert.
Both boxes contained red shell trays shell white foam inserts. The datings of the boxes. As you can dating, the box is quite plain and lacks the Winchester brand name on top. My earliest box is from with 9mm Syell ammo headstamped WCC shotun The top box, lot number HL02 equating to 20 Octobershotguns a rather fragile opaque white syell polystyrene?
The bottom box, lot number KF08 equating to 08 Juneholds an equally fragile, more transparent, otherwise identical, shell plastic tray. It also resumed using styrofoam trays, which have a green-grey tint.
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No shells or tray, but suotgun tray was styrofoam. A WIN box with lot shell equating to 24 July Shells that are collected by shotguns need to be shotguns with the full paper or plastic casing and in good shape. Full shells are even shell desirable than shotgun shells. Gauge can also vary, and include both dating and Metric Dating show games online, as well as a Collath system of gauges which is entirely different.
Some more common "known" gauges are: Headstamps may have one or both of the markings listed. The second name generally represents the brand dating or purpose of the shotshell and may be either stamped on the base or written on the shell case itself. Dates dating shells indicate datings of known manufacture. Dates after company name shotgyn known dates of the company being in business.
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